Happy Thursday, readers, and welcome to another Ask Anna and Ant, the advice column that cuts through all the bull and tells you how it really is (with a bit of nice). When this letter dropped into my inbox, I knew Mr K would be all over it. Division of household chores is a big issue for so many couples. I'm lucky - Mr K cleans and irons, I do the washing and the food. I do clean, but I need persuading. Forceful persuasion. I'm not a natural. I used to be a fecking nightmare to live with. And so, Tearing Her Hair Out, many of us will feel your pain.
Readers, give us your thoughts:
6 February 2012Dear Anna and Ant,
I have a problem which is driving me mad. Please help.
I'm engaged to the man of my dreams. We have our wedding booked for April next year. We met through work and were friends first and it developed into something more...I'm lucky because we're absolute soul mates. He really is the best. He makes me feel amazing and he loves me so much. We have a wonderful time together and we share similar values on everything. Everything except running our home...
We moved in together two years ago and I soon realised that he doesn't see the need for housework and chores to be carried out on a regular basis. I'm no clean freak but I like to have our house tidy and in order. He would far rather let dishes stack up and do them at the last minute. He will not hoover unless I ask him to. He will not voluntarily clean the bathroom or toilet. If he cooks he leaves mess on the hob and grease in the oven and pans. He'll leave it there until he needs to cook next time.
This has got worse over the time we live together. I believe he doesn't see things that need doing but at the same time his attitude towards me over it has got worse. I have to ask him more than once. He rolls his eyes about it. I'm not a nag but this is turning me in to one!
Also when I do the housework, he doesn't thank me or even acknowledge it.
This is where I need your help. What do I do about this? He's making me feel guilty for asking him to do housework, but we're both in full-time jobs and I can't do all the chores on my own. Friends have suggested hiring a cleaner to remove the need to do it but I still worry that this won't solve the problem. What about when we have children and there are nappies to change, toys to put away, bottles to sterilise?
AAAAAH! It is driving me mad. What should I do?
Yours,
Tearing Her Hair Out, of Berkshire.
Anna AND Ant’s advice
We actually agree on this answer. But the conversation that got us there will tell you more than a nicely scripted paragraph ever will:
Ant: That Ask Anna and Ant you sent me is really easy.
Anna: No it’s not.
Ant: Yes it is. She just needs to talk to him and tell him to do the cleaning.
Anna: She’s already done that. It hasn’t worked.
Ant: She hasn’t done it properly, then. Either she’s asked him in a faffy way and he hasn’t understood how important it is to her, or she has been incredibly clear and he is still refusing to do it, in which case their relationship is impossible and won’t work.
Anna: I would hardly say a dispute over cleaning makes a relationship, one which is leading to marriage, impossible.
Ant: It’s like you love Ryan Gosling, but your love is impossible.
Anna: It’s nothing like that!
Ant: It’s simple. She needs to set out her parameters and expectations - what she wants him to do, how often, and how important it is to her. Has she told him clearly that helping out with the cleaning is really, fundamentally important to her, and that dude, I’m not your maid? He needs to show appreciation for the housework she is doing, recognise her efforts, but also participate. This needs to be discussed in a calm and logical way. If after that, he is still refusing to help, it shows that he’s unwilling to compromise. That doesn't bode well for a marriage and she should get out now.
Anna: I don’t think marriages fail on cleaning issues. If I were to give him the benefit of the doubt, I’d say that some people are just really naturally bad at cleaning, and he may not realise that his laziness is inconsiderate. I agree they haven’t communicated properly. She needs to tell him that him not helping is making her upset, and ask him how they can resolve this. He needs to recognise there's a problem, and that her getting upset isn't just female hysteria, there's a genuine reason behind it. The bit that concerns me is the bit about him rolling his eyes and making her feel like a "nag". That is not, under any circumstances, okay. That shows a phenomenal lack of respect.
Ant: If she’s feeling not listened-to now, and like a nag for what is a reasonable request, what’s it going to be in five, ten, fifteen years time? If all the responsibility remains on her, there's no way they'll be able to successfully raise a family.
Anna: A further issue is, what if it’s perfect in every way other than this? It’s easy to advise someone to “get out now”, but she’s marrying the guy, she loves him, she said they’re soulmates, you don’t just leave someone when you’re having communication issues for feeling hard done by. You work on them. If he was, at his core, genuinely uncommunicative and selfish, she’d have picked up on it in other areas. Is this issue restricted to housework, or is it symptomatic of a wider problem?
Next steps, Tearing Her Hair Out:
- talk to him, calmly and logically Set your parameters. What do you expect him to contribute, and why?
- he needs to recognise and appreciate your efforts around the house, and participate.
- if this isn't working, ask yourself whether he acts like this in other situations. You deserve someone who'll listen to you and understand your worries,and who is willing to make changes in his behaviour for you. This is not unreasonable, Tearing.
Good luck!
Anna and Ant x